Friday, July 21, 2006

So The UD Saga Continues

I see they're having a bit of a problem


with their vowels...

Too funny. I'm just wondering if she's a fascist or an idiot. Your choice, vote here, vote often.


54 Eloquent Orations:

On 7/21/2006 02:05:00 PM, Anonymous Arden Chatfield waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

The buzz around the ATBC water cooler is that it might be the work of a disgruntled former employee. :-)

 

On 7/21/2006 02:13:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

O RLY? [EDIT TO ADD LINK AND FUNNY MEME REFERENCE]

That would just make our day!

Let us all raise a glass of something perfectly legal for our ages to a certain disgruntled employee.

How can you guys at AtBC not love that?

Dave, if that's your doing, here's to you.

Kisses,
JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/21/2006 02:14:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

And let us be the first to call for his unbanning at AtBC if that turns out to be the case.

 

On 7/21/2006 02:19:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Well, she's definitively an IDiot, and an idiot. Not sure about the fascist angle...really haven't read any of her work. I might attempt a slog through it on my tour...but I'd really prefer to have fun.

As for the unbanning, hmmm. Don't know if I could support that or not. Now, if it IS him, and he does unban me, I'd have to vote aye.

 

On 7/21/2006 02:23:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

This is just classic:
"From moderator Denyse: For Ofro and anyone else wondering, all the vowel-free comments have been deleted.

Anyone who fancies that sort of thing can sell the skills gained to publishers of game books.

People who prefer private or idiosyncratic languages can start their own blog for free at Blogger.

This blog is for posters in conventional English.

Comment by O'Leary — July 21, 2006 @ 1:08 pm "


Ok, so just so no one forgets, she's not Denyse, shes MODERATOR Denyse. You know, I hear ice will bring down the swelling there, SuperFreak.

So she's too stupid to realize the comments are being disemvowelled by someone on the admin end, she blames it on the commenters, she deletes the comments, and insults what few lemmings are left.

This just gets betterer and betterer.

 

On 7/21/2006 02:32:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Hi blipey. Are the fonts better for you eyes, now?

I don't think Dave's allowed to unban anyone anymore. I have a sneaking suspicion that when the SuperFreak stepped up, Dave's priveleges were yanked.

Of course, given the recent alphabet issues, it's hard to say.

What would really be funny is if he snuck in and unbanned everybody who's ever been banned there.

Dave, are you listening? (Hint hint)

 

On 7/21/2006 02:52:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Yes, that's what I was getting at. I posted as much at AtBC, as well.

Yes, I like the fonts, though I don't really know if I can take credit for any of that.

See my strategy here.

 

On 7/21/2006 03:13:00 PM, Blogger bourgeois_rage waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Freakin' brilliant.

I was worried that UD would become unfunny once Dave was run out of town. But I can already tell that moderator Dense stumbling around like a drunk is going to be hilarious.

blipey, you really need to get another IP to get around the ban.

 

On 7/21/2006 03:22:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

I know, but I my DSL auto assigns it and SBC won't won't change it. That's okay...I'll have another when I'm on the road here soon, so I'm not too upset.

I bet your Mama will have another one on the road, too -- jb

 

On 7/21/2006 04:18:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Hey, watch what I can do now...

 

On 7/21/2006 04:21:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Sorry, but I just found the script to do that.

It was funny in Jacksonville.

:)

 

On 7/21/2006 04:22:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Kate tried it out on Davison's last comment in the science thread.

Check it out.

 

On 7/21/2006 04:27:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Ok, in case you're missing it, check out blipey's last comment and look real close....

 

On 7/21/2006 04:34:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

I am OUTRAGEUOSLY OFFENDED that you would use my post as the guinea pig for your slander- and abuse-ridden insertions!

If that's the way it's going to be, consider me gone! In fact, I'm going to report this site to a hate site watch group.

KISS MY A$$

Now, for the UD version:

m TRGSL(nd smtms)Y FFNDD tht y wld s m(bt nl smtms) pst s th gn pg fr yr slndr- nd bs- rddn nsrtns!

f tht's th wy t's gng t b, cnsdr m gn! n fct, 'm gng t rprt ths st t ht st wtch grp.

I KISS MY OWN ASS

blipey

 

On 7/21/2006 04:38:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

are you serious??? you're moderating my comment because I used a$%?

 

On 7/21/2006 04:41:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

wow, you can't say ass???

That ain't me blipey.

I've dropped the f bomb, remember?

 

On 7/21/2006 04:44:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

And I don't moderate here, except when some nutjob like Josh or Davison spews hate to my commenters.

I hope you know me better than that, blipey.

Kisses,
JanieBelle

 

On 7/21/2006 04:46:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Did your ass comment really get held up, or was that part of the ha-ha of the previous post?

I can see it fine.

 

On 7/21/2006 04:54:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

now if we only had a disemvoweler...

 

On 7/21/2006 06:25:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

No, it really did get held up for some reason...that's why I was shocked.

Oh, I forgot...I'm done here! Ignore this post.

 

On 7/21/2006 09:25:00 PM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

The disemvoweling was my doing but nothing I did recently. It was running on autopilot watching for a few IP addresses and caught old SteveStory at ATBC redhanded posting under a several names.

I'll drink to me nonetheless!

Here's to Dave.

For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow
For he's a jolly good fellow (pause), and so say all of us
And so say all of us, and so say all of us
For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow
For he's a jolly good fellow (pause), which nobody can deny.

A Rose for DaveWe drink to you, too, Dave. No alchohol for JB, of course. - Kate

 

On 7/21/2006 09:33:00 PM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

blipey

I probably don't have access rights to undo the IP ban on you. That's done at the server management level not the Wordpress software. I didn't check to see if they changed the server password and even if they didn't I wouldn't get on it now that I said I'd be uninvolved.

However, you can get back on there if you want by using an anonymous proxy which changes the IP address that websites see from yours to the proxy's. I use them frequently. None of the pro-evolution sites that have me banned can actually stop me from posting on them with an anonymous proxy.

Go here and follow the directions:

http://anonymizer.nntime.com/

And don't say I never gave you anything.

 

On 7/21/2006 09:34:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Nicely done, DaveScot. Not quite as funny as if you were actually a ghost running around at UD, but good none-the-less.

Several good hours of laughing at Moderator Denyse.

Now, how about letting me in on just what criteria would have to be met in order for a good-ol' American citizen to be precluded from making public education decisions?

You can leave your answer here.

Thank-you for your informative answer.

 

On 7/21/2006 09:42:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Thank-you, Dave. Very kind of you.

I never said you were without your charms, Dave. Just a little exasperated at the mode of conduct at UD. And don't think that I am singling you out by any means. Dembski started it and created the environment that you fanned to life. It obviously still continues.

 

On 7/21/2006 09:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

If Dave still had access to UD's server logs, he'd know taciturnus and ofro weren't me. IIRC, taciturnus is a long time ID supporter, for one thing. Dave, however, pretended to be me on Larry Fafarman's blog a few times.

 

On 7/21/2006 10:07:00 PM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

I was just following orders at UD.

My policy in all things, where practical, is called the "zero support policy". Whether you're selling software or running a blog you find that if the product is of good quality then 90% of the complaints come from 10% of the customers. The logical thing to do is give the 10% a refund and refer them to your competitor.

UD was no different. 10% of the commenters caused 90% of the moderation work so as soon as I identified a troublemaker I put them on the shitlist and referred them to ATBC. Problem solved. Identification and enforced banishment was a bit of a trick for the hard cases like Alan Fox, Steve Story, KeithS, and a few others. Tiax, Bob OH, great_ape, and few others who seldom if ever subject to moderation are living proof that I allowed the opposition to comment. You just had to be bright and civil at the same time which is trick most of the ATBC crowd can't perform.

 

On 7/21/2006 10:12:00 PM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Steve

I said I may have had more than one IP address for you. The server logs would prove nothing as you may have more than one fixed IP address at your disposal.

 

On 7/21/2006 10:19:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Interesting point, DaveScot. Using this logic:

UD is a good product (therefor worthwhile and useful? I don't want to put words in your mouth, so tell me if this is wrong).

We know this because problems come from only 10% of those familiar with it.

Well, how about Evolution is a good product, useful and worthwhile?

We know this because the "problems" (read: detractors) amount to only .1% of those familiar with it.

Shouldn't ToE be a way stronger product than UD on this basis?

This comment would never see the light of day on UD, even under your care. Why? It ask answerable questions formed in a logical manner.

 

On 7/21/2006 11:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

On July 21, 2006 11:12 PM, DaveScot said...

Steve

I said I may have had more than one IP address for you. The server logs would prove nothing as you may have more than one fixed IP address at your disposal.


What it would prove is that steve s and ofto or whatever his name is, and taciturnus, or whatever his name is, have never come from the same IPs, which would negate any evidence you had for saying I had multiple identities. If you remember, you said

It was running on autopilot watching for a few IP addresses and caught old SteveStory at ATBC redhanded posting under a several names.

and for that to make sense, the same name, one of them mine, and provably from me, would have to be attached to an IP from which ofto and/or taciturnus posted. Sorry to have to explain basic things to you, but they don't call you Davetard for nothing.

 

On 7/21/2006 11:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

and the 'provably from me' part was included because you yourself have impersonated me before, haven't you Davetard. Not hard to understand why you were sacked.

 

On 7/21/2006 11:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

ironically, I'm posting this stuff on a blog where I have used a pseudonym, that of Larry Fafafalafarman.

 

On 7/21/2006 11:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Actually, Dave, there's nothing unexpected about you impersonating someone. Remember when Dembski was caught praising his own book under a pseudonym on Amazon?

 

On 7/22/2006 03:12:00 AM, Blogger Alan Fox waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Dave:

You just had to be bright and civil at the same time which is trick most of the ATBC crowd can't perform.

Dave, that is sooo unfair. You are the biggest ID sceptic of all, only along for the political ride, you were never bright and rarely civil, yet you were allowed to post at UD for ages without being banned, only publicly having your knuckles rapped by Bill a couple of times.

Little me a hard case? You flatter me. My only interest in ID has been the entertainment value. I do hope you manage to stay on the blog scene, as the internet will be a little greyer without your bons mots to brighten our day.

 

On 7/22/2006 06:20:00 AM, Blogger JohnADavison waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Go get em Davison. This is your last chance! Show what a real Nutjob is capable of.

I love it so when Janie and Kate make me look stupider than I am.

It's a tough job for them

John A. Davison You're a Nutjob, Davison

Fixed that for you, Davison.

Buh Bye, Fluff Fluff

JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/22/2006 07:32:00 AM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

blipey

Try to get this through your clown makeup into your head. I don't want to discuss evolution or ID and I'm not going to.

Could the moderators here please ask blipey to stop pestering me? Thanks in advance.

 

On 7/22/2006 07:35:00 AM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

anonymous

Whoever you are you can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. Got it? Write that down.

 

On 7/22/2006 08:06:00 AM, Blogger apollo230 waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Alas, Dave, the members of your "fang club" are not going to leave you alone. If Steve's 170-page thread about Uncommon Dissent is any indication, they are too fond of engaging you (as THE unremitting subject of discussion, or in person, for that matter). You will not be able to drop your popularity at the drop of a hat.

Best regards,
apollo230

PS: Greetings to the local proprietors: Janiebelle and Kate! :)

 

On 7/22/2006 09:03:00 AM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

apollo1430

Here's the deal I'm willing to make. Get the ban on me lifted at Panda's Thumb, including After The Bar Closes, and I'll think about answering some questions regarding ID and evolution there. Otherwise my fang club can kiss my ass.

 

On 7/22/2006 09:27:00 AM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Wow Dave,

That IS civil. Thanks for the working definition. Now, I didn't ask you anything about ID; what I asked was:

Are there any criteria in existence that would preclude a red-blooded American from making public education decisions?

See, as much relevance to ID as ID has to religion, right?

Ah well; I suppose I should just collect your 1,000,000? words on the subject into a series of books and peruse them at my leisure. Except I think you're having a little preposition trouble. I'm sure you meant:

1,000,000 words about ID and evolution

on would imply some expertise

 

On 7/22/2006 11:30:00 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Easy guys, Dave is in the anger phase of the Kübler-Ross Grief Cycle. Let's be supportive.


*Hugs Dave*

 

On 7/22/2006 11:31:00 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Easy Guys. Dave is in the ANGER phase of the Kübler-Ross Grief Cycle. Let's be supportivem eh?



*Hugs Dave*

 

On 7/22/2006 12:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Here's the deal I'm willing to make. Get the ban on me lifted at Panda's Thumb, including After The Bar Closes, and I'll think about answering some questions regarding ID and evolution there. Otherwise my fang club can kiss my ass.

You know, Dave, it would be make much more sense for you to just start your own blog... No one could ban you, you wouldn't have to hold forth about anything you were sick of talking about...

I mean come on, aside from this blog, the only place where you're still welcome is LARRY'S blog, and you know as well as we do what a pathetic loon HE is. I can't believe you don't want a better forum for your self-expression than that.

C'mon, think of it like when the Beatles broke up!

 

On 7/22/2006 02:22:00 PM, Blogger JohnADavison waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Am I sane? Not a chance. Simpering Idiot is more like it. I hope he gets his own blog so he can resume deleting me which is what he has always done best. I suspect Turette Syndrome in myself in combination with an advanced case of limelight disease.

I love it so when I show what an absolute ass I am.

"My past intelligence is undeniable, my present brain undemonstrable."
John A. Davison Freak Boy Go Home

Fixed that for you, Davison.

Always glad to help.

Adios, Sayonara, Goodbye, This is it.

JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/22/2006 03:01:00 PM, Blogger DaveScot waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Davison,

I believe the management here asked you to take a hike. Why aren't you taking it?

 

On 7/22/2006 04:29:00 PM, Blogger blipey waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Oh, that's nice! I love it so! Can you try to leave a little of JAD's comment in tact, though? So we get a little ranting along with the funny?

 

On 7/22/2006 04:58:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Alright, we were just doing a hurry up job. We still have the full comment we'll worry about it later, when the connection is a little more stable.

Kisses

JnK

 

On 7/22/2006 05:02:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Ok, everybody cool out. No flame wars unless I start them.

Be civil or be elsewhere.

JanieBelle

 

On 7/22/2006 05:15:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Steve,

I appreciate your not using the Larry name. Thank you. Please do be civil here, though. That goes for everyone.

Thanks,

JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/22/2006 08:44:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

blipey said:

Oh, that's nice! I love it so! Can you try to leave a little of JAD's comment in tact, though? So we get a little ranting along with the funny?

Better?

 

On 7/22/2006 08:57:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Apollo 230, way up yonder there somewhere, said:
PS: Greetings to the local proprietors: Janiebelle and Kate! :)

Hi Apollo! Glad to have you here. Sorry we didn't greet you sooner. As you may have discovered, we're having serious connection issues here, and we had some priority bullcrap to address before we could start commenting.

Alas, by that time your comment had drifted on by, and in our "hurry up before the cable modem craps out again" mode, we missed it. For that we apologize.

Welcome, be kind, at least be civil, and enjoy the blog.

JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/22/2006 11:48:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

And in case you missed it, we've begun to leave our comments in the "alt" tags to our roses and raspberries. Be sure to mouse over the images.

Kisses,

JanieBelle and Kate

 

On 7/23/2006 07:28:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

This was originally posted in the Science thread, but it bears cross posting:

Ok, I think Dave's made his position and his response perfectly clear. If you wish to engage him on other topics, feel free. With civility. No flame wars unless Hurricane Jane starts them.

Dave's welcome here, same as anybody else. Treat others well, we'll treat you well. Be an ass, wind up like Davison.

Any questions?

Kate


Dave has said several times he wants a break from the ID/Evolution fight. Please give it to him.

In this great big universe, there is one special place set aside just for antagonizing Dave. You can find it here.

I hope I've made myself clear.

Kate

 

On 7/23/2006 09:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

I have no desire to antagonize DS. Just realize that if you knew more about his history with the fraternity at PT you would know that he had self-selected to be the object of the ridicule he draws. It seems a little disingenious to us to claim exhaustion now. But I am willing to stipulate that it qualifies as harassment to follow him all over the internet for the purpose of continuing the Evo/ID fight. I'll say no more about DS.

vino of wil

 

On 7/23/2006 10:48:00 PM, Blogger JanieBelle waxed damned near poetic whilst opining...

Hi vino.

I got the whole rundown on Dave and PT. However, let me just say this.

Dave has never been anything but sweet to me and Kate, and he's only gone off here when he was deliberately poked in the eye.

As long as he continues to respect our blog, he will always be welcome here. Even some of the AtBC guys have remarked on how he's conducted himself here, and I would like to see him continue to comment here.

Now, THAT said, I'd also like to see you and the other evolution supporters continue here. Things have been a little testy lately, but I think JAD the WAD instigated most of that. I'd like to see that ended.

I want to come back to evolutionary science, there is a great deal I need to learn from you guys. But I want the conversation to return to civility.

Thank you for your support.

 

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